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Bushido Wiki Development

Hi all,

Some of you may have seen via Facebook that I am developing a wiki for Bushido, and I wanted to kick off a forum thread for tracking progress and feedback etc..

Note that I have sought approval from GCT to develop this, and they are keen for it to happen :)

The primary purpose of the wiki is to improve the experience for all Bushido players by providing a quick reference which is searchable, and includes FAQs for all aspects of the game. It will be especially useful for new players to help them get into the game more quickly.

The site is up and running via WikiDot, but I'm keeping it private while I flesh out the structure and get it looking "pretty".

I and have identified the following key areas to be included:

1. Introductory information about the game itself and notes about the version of the rules and any errata referenced.

2. The rulebook content as it appears in the book, broken up into sections which can have their own FAQ applied e.g. Ranged Attacks has its own section with a breakdown of how the mechanic works and a FAQ page associated.

3. Pages for each faction with information in a standardised format which includes; background info (fluff), playstyle(s), strengths, profile types available to the faction, and a summary of the faction themes.

4. Pages for each profile type (Samurai, Shisai, Ashigaru, Shugenja, Yokai, Monk etc..) with a brief description of what they are and what they do. Plenty of scope for fluff to be included here.

5. Errata information broken down into categories e.g. card misprints, profile stat updates etc.. This will be unofficial, but the information will need to be approved and validated by a rep from GCT, and will have a clear reference to the most current official errata document to ensure there is no conflict/confusion. The idea here is to have a running ledger of clarifications which can be cleared when a new version of the errata is released.

6. Useful links to resources such as; these forums, the GCT store, Andy Palmer's Jumo Ring blog, Richard James' Hidden Fortress blog etc..

Once I have the site looking the way I want it, and the basic structure and content all loaded and formatted, I will open it up for community involvement (need to work out the best way to allow collaboration without things getting too messy).

In the meantime, I would be grateful to anyone who would like to provide some feedback on the proposed structure, and also anyone who would like to start writing some articles for inclusion. At this stage the most useful stuff would be the "faction info" and "profile type" descriptions so I can paste these in and get the content moving.

Look forward to your feedback and input :)

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I would say add in every cards Rule in written form
If GCT is going to cooperate with you transferring the cards rules from preexisting Word/PDF should be easy... Not the overall task itself it will be a pretty big undertaking but not having to type letter for letter each cards Rule should help... I'd contact them to see if it's a possibility
This will give a link for discussion of every type of build a player could make... From upgrade, themes and character cards it would create a complete wiki

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Thanks for the input.

Every rule will be covered and have a FAQ, and I plan to include links between things that are related e.g. the Poison trait and the Poisoned state etc..

The ki feats on the profile cards all relate to specific rules in the book which will be covered, so not sure duplicating all the profile cards themselves would be necessary. There is work underway to get everything into BattleScribe for warband building, which will make that aspect easier.

Would the ability to build lists via Battlescribe meet the need you see do you think?

The site will evolve and build over time (I hope), so if the community wants something it can be added :)

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I can start with the Cult (but have in mind it is my opinion and I play Bushido only for 1 year)

The Cult is probably the most difficult faction in the game but also the strongest. Cult can play hordes of zombies and Control game with the shugenja/yokai. It is the weakest faction in terms of damage output. Aside from zombies and ghosts (yokai) there are the burakumin and they are support and fighter characters.

The main strenght from the cult is FEAR and opposed Ki Feats. Nearly all models have fear or can gain it via a card.
There are 3 Shugenjas each with a Ki value of 3. Ikyrio deals direct damage, Waku weakens the enemy to deal more damage and Kato summons zombies and put control tokens on enemys. 

There are 2 Themes in the cult right now:

- Death and Decay: It is the zombies theme. You gain a zombie for each dead (non soulless) model

- Nightmares of Jingoku: Ghosts and Kamis. Haunt your Enemy with 3 of the 7 deadly sins, rat people and other asian nightmares

If you are playing Cult you must play dirty, mean and without honour. Your opponent will start to hate you for picking up this faction

 

I can write some thoughts about the models if you want me to continue

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I wouldn't put any absolutes if I were you.

As soon as you write "Cult is the most difficult faction" you will get people arguing saying X or Y is more difficult, same with "strongest faction"and "weakest in terms of damage output" someone will want to say their faction is more difficult, weaker or stronger...  

Grand Master of Bushido (Smog Con '14)

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Thanks for contributing guys. Your effort and feedback will be incorporated :)

I started on an Ito faction page, so will flesh that out and share so people can get an idea of what I have in mind in regards to format.

I’ll also throw together a “profile type” page example and see what everyone thinks.

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Building the wiki provides the opportunity to consolidate the fiction from each product page into a more user-friendly browsing experience.

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Do you mean the text attached to each mini on the GCT web store?

Assuming so, do you think it would be better to have separate pages for each, or condense them based on faction?

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Yeah. I think a separate page for each... Maybe GCT will be able to dig out artwork for them too?

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Sounds good.

I will see what I can get in terms of card images also. Adding these on each profile page would also address Dustgod’s point above without a lot of data entry.

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It's not that I hate to use this analogy is just a good model to aspire too...
I don't know if you have Infinity Army Builder downloaded but you should take a look at how they link the Army Builder to the wiki if you're going that route it will make things much easier for the fans...
I also agree with Jason I wouldn't put any "Opinions" about which is the best worst hardest or weakest factions to play I would stick strictly to the rules and getting those rules in the hands of the fans and making if possible cross references between this app and the wiki...

If you haven't downloaded Infinity Army Builder downloaded just so you can see the interface

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Yes, I’m familiar with Infinity Army and it is definitely awesome. I’ve often visualised what a Bushido version might look like.

I don’t know what options there may or may not be to link wiki info to BattleScribe. Sure it would be nice, but honestly the impact such a link would have is not really that big IMHO. There just aren’t as many or as complex list building options for Bushido as Infinity, and the rules are very light and manageable in comparison.

Don’t get me wrong. Having an app like Infinity would be absolutely amazing, and I hope that one day the guys at GCT can achieve something equally as cool because people would go nuts for it. If I had the coding talent I’d probably be building that as a hobby right now instead of a wiki :)

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Update.

GCT have responded to my email and offered access to some of their artwork and stuff to help flavour the site and tie it more closely with the published material.

Thanks guys!

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A fully-integrated solution would need funding. I'd love one, too, but the scale of the two companies is currently quite different. Maybe one day in the future.

As for Battlescribe & the wiki, there is no scope for integration there.

Great news on the art!

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Sounds like it's coming along
Looking forward to seeing it

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Sounds like it's coming along
Looking forward to seeing it

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The wiki has been launched in case anyone missed the announcement via Facebook.

http://bushidothegame.wikidot.com

Check our the status page from the left menu for the current state, planned updates and ideas for the future.

Feedback welcome via the wiki forums.

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This is a wonderfull work.

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A titanic job, just amazing...

Congratulations.

Maldoror42

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Thanks guys.

Content has been updated.

All factions now have fully complete special card and theme card images loaded.

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Hi,

I've not seen Minimoto Ice Patch and Silvermoon Hotei's Hourglass special cards (from list of replacement deck).

Bye

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Thanks for the feedback.

I was missing the starter pack special cards for Minimoto, and have now added these.

Added in Hotei’s Hourglass and checked all faction special cards to make sure they are complete.

Ice Patch was not included in the images which GCT provided to me. Do you know if it is definitely included in the replacement deck?

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I've not this one but the listing of the replacement deck indicates:

Special cards:

    Absolute Loyalty
    Army of the Minimoto
    Bear Arms
    Blizzard
    Garrison of the Damned
    Hasty Bear
    Ice Patch
    Ice Totem
    Irokane Armour
    Irokane Tetsubo
    Just a scratch
    Mind Over Matter
    Minimoto Clan Armour
    Teachings of Yashushi
    The Finest Steel
    Witness Me!

Thanks for your job,

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I’ve asked GCT if they can provide the image for Ice Patch. Also asked for the Makibishi terrain card, which is the same kind of thing.

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The card should, I think, come with Kimiko. It is just a card with an ice graphic on it; the rules are on Kimiko's card.

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I see that with the "Serpent's Coil" theme filter of Ito Clan there are some Ronin profiles avaiable. I will check the rules, but as I remember you cannot include Ronin profiles into a theme unless is explicitely allowed, so no Ronin should be there.
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Thanks for checking on this.

There are no permitted or excluded profiles so all Ronin available to Ito can be used as per page 17 of the rule book under the permitted heading :)

 

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Page 19:

c) Ronin can only have Ronin Enhancement cards and cannot be included in any Faction theme lists unless the theme specifies Ronin of that type.

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Under the death and decay profile aviable for recruit i think it's missing the link to kairai villagers.

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Bit of a contradiction in the rules regarding ronin and themes it seems :(

I’ve fixed the Kairai issue now.

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The reference regarding Ronin I mpage 19 is pretty clear, so I’ve now adjusted the Serpents Coil list to relive all Ronin.

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*page 19

*remove all Ronin

Phone typing not good tonight...

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There seems to be a discrepency in the rules regarding Ronin and themes, as on page 17 it says: 

 

Theme Card Traits:
Permitted (Type): Only models with a matching type can be recruited into this Warband, Ronin models of the type may only be included if the theme states Ronin of that type are permitted.
If a Theme list card does not have this trait, all models from the chosen Faction and all Ronin available to that faction are available to recruit into the theme.

 

Which would suggest that for Serpant's Coil (and any other without Permitted listed, such as Garrison of Steel) would allow Ronin models to be included.

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Themes always only allow models of the correct faction
Page 19 clearly states that Ronin models are NOT considered to be of the faction of the Warband

It also specifically mentions that ronin cannot be included in any Faction theme lists unless the theme specifies Ronin of that type

I don't see any discepancies here.

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I accept that page 19 is clear, but the following text on page 17 is in direct contradiction:

“If a Theme list card does not have this trait, all models from the chosen Faction and all Ronin available to that faction are available to recruit into the theme.”

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 The discrepency is that two pages before, under the rules for theme cards it states:

Permitted (Type): Only models with a matching type can be recruited into this Warband, Ronin models of the type may only be included if the theme states Ronin of that type are permitted.

If a Theme list card does not have this trait, all models from the chosen Faction and all Ronin available to that faction are available to recruit into the theme.

 

This clearly says all Ronin available to the faction can be included in the theme if there is no permitted trait listed.

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Reading on page 17 of the rules, and yes it seems to specify that Ronins are allowed since there are no permitted type. Just imho: logically speaking, I expect that a theme give my warband some bonuses by applying a restricion - and implies that I could not afford some strategies but power up some other in exchange. So, when I first read Serpent's Coil, I assume that you CANNOT use Ronin (so no vanilla/ronint-hemed list) and gives to the faction some benefits. To me, instead of specify a counter-intuitive rule like that, it would be better to specify what models can be recruited even if they are all the models normally affordable by an unthemed list; something like "Permitted [Clan Ito Models, Ronin Models]", or - if only Ito clan models are allowed - "Permitted [Clan Ito Models]". Not so much words, but with really no chance of misunderstanding. The page 17 rule can remain the same (even with no FAQ) because the simple "Permitted" clause overcome that in every situation.
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This is something on our list of found errors.

P17 Should read:

Theme Card Traits:
Permitted (Type): Only models with a matching type can be recruited into this Warband, Ronin models of the type may only be included if the theme states Ronin of that type are permitted.
If a Theme list card does not have this trait, all models from the chosen Faction are available to recruit into the theme.
If a Ronin Theme list card does not have this trait, all models from the chosen Faction and all Ronin available to that Faction are available to recruit into the theme.

With hindsight, yes, it may have been better to just give all themes the trait but nobody spotted it during testing or proofing.
Please check if this works correctly.

Grand Master of Bushido (Smog Con '14)

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This is much clearer now, thanks!

I’ve updated the wiki text as per above.

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