Prone models and assist

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ragankrob
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Prone models and assist

It isn’t entirely clear if prone models can assist in melee if they are still B2B with an enemy.

 

is there anything I’m missing?

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Most models in a melee exchange with a different model will choose not to be BtB with a prone enemy so get no Assist.

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ragankrob
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Thanks for the quick reply! One more question:

Can you choose not to be on BtB if you are not the active model?

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Just when declaring or performing actions.  Its not exactly the same as being the active model but usually the same thing.

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Ok but just to see if I understand correctly:

My model(A) is engaged with an enemy(B), they trade some punches and nobody dies, but (A) is now exhausted. Then model(B) becomes prone because of another melee exchange that didn't involve (A) at all.

A third model(C) charges (A), can (A) at this point declare that it doens't want to be considered in B2B with (B)?

Is there another timing that allows (A) to choose not to be in B2B with (B)?

Is participating in a melee exchange as a defender an action?

The situation described above happened in a game recently and we weren't sure how it was supposed to be resolved

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A third model(C) charges (A), can (A) at this point declare that it doens't want to be considered in B2B with (B)?

Yes. Because (B) is prone it doesn't have a ZoC, block LoS or hinder movement. (A) can freely move while (B) is prone.

Is there another timing that allows (A) to choose not to be in B2B with (B)?

Other than (A) performing a disengage action or have a trait that allows (A) to move freely, I don't think so.

Is participating in a melee exchange as a defender an action?

Both yes and no. As a defender, a model who has not activated will loose one activation and become tired. If a tired model is engaged in a melee exchange as a defender, it will become exhausted. You can call it a forced action, but it'd be more accurate to call it a forced activation.

 

Hope this helps!

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