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bontauro
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New Descension Starter -

I have seen the cards in the new descension Starter and i've a question:

 

Noone of the profiles have Bushi on the Type section of the cards...

in particular the 3 suzume don't have the Bushi tipe. It's an error?

Other Suzume in the descension are also Bushi and this lack can cut many possibilities.

 

bontauro
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And general rice cost of those new profiles are a bit high compared with similar tengu profiles.

 

bontauro
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And general rice cost of those new profiles are a bit high compared with similar tengu profiles.

 

skydancer
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I've the feeling that almost every new starter set profile are weak compared to old profile.

Dunno if this is an intentional gameplay approach. ( we give you basic profile that cost X so you can have 70 rice army) but i think that generally speacking most of the new profile card,  theme card and special card have some very basic meta gameplay depth.

Sora9785
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Where did you get the cards?

Could you post a link if possible?

bontauro
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In the store

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I don't play Tengu, but I looked at the cards...and compared them to the other cards in the faction.

First, they appear similarly costed to most other Tengu...which seem to range from 12-18 so I'm not sure why you think the new starter is higher. Are you just coming back to the game? All models have basically been doubled since the game is now played at up to 100 rice instead of the old 50 rice.

Second, it looks like this is just a different way to play. All of the new starter boxes introduced a new theme card which matched the type of models in the box. Not all models in the faction will have unique synergies with others....looking through the Tengu files, there are still more than half a dozen Bushi.

Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.

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These guys were amazing in playtesting.  So fast, able to leave BtB easily and ok in melee for defence, they were unbeatable in some scenarios.
 

Removing some expected special attacks or defences and the loss of the Bushi type helped keep them managable without losing their flavour.  I hope we can do more scouts who aren't exactly warriors for Tengu as it is exactly their playstyle.

Grand Master of Bushido (Smog Con '14)

bontauro
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Could be interesting to see some playtesting pics, my group don't use many scenario objects and that could be the matter and the different perception.

 

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What do you mean that your group doesn't use many scenario objects? Do you guys just put crews on the table and see who can kill each other first?

If that's the case then you're not getting out of it what this game can give. This game is all about the scenario...sure, you can kill each other and in most games models will get killed, but that isn't how you win this game...it's all about Victory Points...completing the mission. You can wipe the enemy off the table and lose this game if they scored more VP.

Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.

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We just use the 3 scenarios on the manual.

Honestly i could change Umeka to be like this :

MS : 2(3)

RS : 3

MOV : 4

KI : 1(3)/6

5 wounds

-1 Scissors : Bleed (1/1)

Combo attack (0)

Assassin, Cultist (1/6)

(i really don't like spirit 1 on a cult profile, here seem put just to make her pass some fear test but especially cast his feat with some chance of success)

Patchwork : 2(S) BTB = friendly non soulles model heal 2 wound and get two bleed (1) markers.

If a model (not just enemy) die in the end phase by bleed, this model could heal all his wounds

Rise cost : 10

skydancer
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Looking at hirohibo i don't understand why i'd to pick him over hazkabo.

Probably his feat is more strong than i could understand or he need some buff or some discount in rise cost.

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Slipstream is very powerful.

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