Are Theme Cards a bad thing?

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Are Theme Cards a bad thing?

Hello everyone, hello GCT

1. Are Theme Cards a bad thing?

On the first thought, they are very cool. Your clan gets specialized and stronger. You have new ways to play with your models. And just over all more fluff and fun.

But, with the exclusion of models in the themed clans, like Ronins. You are forced to decide to either play a strong theme based clan with a lot of additional stuff and get a better this bonus to win. Or just play for fun with the models you like and combine them without the theme restrictions. So without the themes there would be more diversity on the table.

2. Am I wrong, what do you think?

3. Did anybody ever win a tournament without having a theme based list and also a some Ronin models in it?

When you decide that you like theme based clans, you have to think about which model to buy for it. You need to check Theme Cards in the Special Card Packs. So you need to purchase the cards in advance just to which miniatures fit the restrictions. That's very bad considering, that GCT has all the other Profile cards and rules online for free. (Thanks for that, I still bought the rule book! Its just beautiful. Your miniatures as well!)

I don't need to get the Enhancement, or Event Cards for free. In fact I would just like to order the Special Card Pack at the same time with all the miniatures, but for the moment that's not possible. We can already find the changes in the Errata, so....

4. Why can't we have the Theme Cards online or at least just in writing to know what they do?

Looking forward to the comments.

 

 

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1.) I'd dispute your conclusion.  You can look at card games as basically much faster iterations of wargaming, and netdecking happens extremely quickly.  MtG or Hearthstone are both good for gathering sample data on player behaviour.  Without additional impetous for players to move from some tournament winning warband they saw on the internet, you'll see stagnation in warband design very quickly.

Ronin profiles are generally much better than faction profiles in power:rice cost ratio.  The Kappa has absurdly good stats for a 6 rice profile.  Toshiro is a game changer, wait until you see the Cult warbands you can build around him.  The Blood Brothers and Sworn Sisters all do their things very well.  I'm pretty sure the Sworn Sisters might have the highest skill ceiling in the game.  Yukio allows any samurai clan to be able to play control.  There are still some weaker ronin profiles, but that's all under Risen Sun testing.

So it basically comes down to cost analysis for the individual player: do I want theme benefits or do I want options/individually powerful profiles?

2.) See 1.

3.) Hmm, since the release of themes, Colin Tough won the BonesCon Masters with a themeless Savage Wave warband.  No ronin, but Wave has the weakest ronin options I think.  Not sure if Chris Hales' bakemono horde is themed or not since it has Hiretsuna.

4.) Not sure.  Will bring it up next time I meet GCT in person next year.  I'm sure I brought it up before, but then everyone got drunk so I don't remember the conclusion.

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Thx, for the answers. I'm always happy to learn new things.

In this case especially, because I would love to test new clans with ronin combinations and just having fun to play a unique clan and still beeing able to win. I love this game, for me it brought the fun back in tabletop gaming. I played 40k for way too long. There you need to play meta for a win. Glad, that this isn't the case in Bushido. I hope it will never be.

 

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Granted my meta isn't too big but we don't even discuss any kind of "global meta". I have played a lot of different games and I've always seen those kinds of "net-list" discussions and I just don't see it here. I think every faction has multiple ways to do things so there isn't really specific models that are auto-includes. There are some that everybody likes, but I see plenty of lists that don't include them. It's very nice.

 

@Palmer...your #4 answer is golden!

Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.