First game: Cult of Yurei vs Ito

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First game: Cult of Yurei vs Ito

greetings everyone,

i'm Krikke from Belgium and I played my very first game of Bushido on Tuesday.
I stumbled upon Bushido online a few months back and promptly ordered 2 starterkits, Cult of Yurei and Ito.

We played the Keii scenario.

I had a really fun time.

First turn consisted of movement and Kato summoning a marionette. Turn 2 the slaughter began as Itsunagi Ito caught Ikiryo off guard and promptly ended her life :-(. Kato did his instant feat 'capture soul' and a kairai militia replaced Ikiryo.

Meanwhile the temple bushi and Akimoto engaged the kairai militia and armoured kairai. The militia didn't make it but succeeded in his rise test. Akimoto died aswell
The kairai farmer was brought to 1 wound left by a ranged feat of Sakura and was poisoned. Bye bye. Ito claimed more objective points and scored 1 VP.

Turn 3 my summoned marionette was able to get in close with Itsunagi Ito and despite his defences against opposed ki tests was able to put 2 control markers on him. Epic! I made him run back and claim his friendly objective for me. My personal highlight of the game. It was just hilarious.
In combat the temple bushi and Chiyo died. My 2 kairai died. One made his rise test.

Turn 4 some more moving, brawling and objective claiming ensued. I got ahead in points and the VP score is now 1-1.

Turn 5 found Kato in combat with sakura. I thought to myself, lets try this nifty looking 'ivory prison attack'. I miraculously made the roll off. Bye Sakura.

Turn 6 my opponent wasn't able to score more objective points so end score Cult of Yurei 2VP vs Ito 1VP.
Only things left were 1 Kairai militia and Itsunagi Ito. That guy is a beast.

Ofcourse being our first game, we most likely made a lot of mistakes but we had a blast nevertheless.

A few questions:
* Melee modifiers like for being exhausted or outnumbered do mean -1 to the attack roll and not the number of dice right?
* A model who is prone can fight back with a -1 melee modifier?
* The kairai are soulless and always succeed an opposed ki test. Only the ones they initiate?
* The objectives in this scenario could be claimed even if the opponent already did?
* Ivory prison attack(2) from Kato, just checking I understood, you discard 2 dice from his melee exchange pool so you can only do this if you pay 3 ki to buy an extra dice or you can't make a roll, right?

Thank you kindly for reading and hopefully answering my questions. I apologize if there are a lot of mistakes but English isn't my native tongue.

Kind regards.

Krikke

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Hey there sounds like you fought a good fight!
Cult are tricky to master but when you master them they will br hsrd to stop!
To answer your questions...,
1) melee modifers modify the number of dice a player rolls to determine their sucess level e,g
Say if itsunagi ito was exhusted, when hes in melee, he would normally roll 4 dice ( gets to choose which ones he puts into sttack and ehich in defense) from being exhausted he has a -1 melee modifer so now he can roll only 3 dice ( once again deciding what to roll into attack and defence)
2) A prone model has a -1 melee modifer when somebody attacks thrm yes, they can perform a simple action to stand up! If however when they stand up if they are in base to base with a enemy model, they stand up and resolve a melee exchange with that model in base to base STILL with a -1 melee modifyer for being prone! Once that melee has been done they loose the -1 as they are no longer prone
3) soulless auto success ALL fesr a d opposed ki tests no matter who (friendly or foe) initiate them
4) scenario objectives can be "claimed" by anyone no matter what. Theres 2 types in keii you perform a simple action to prayer and put a token on, you can put a token or multiple tkens on the same objective a enemy has prayered on or you have prayered on.
5) thats one way of doing it yes! But no matter whst in melee exchanges you MUST always roll least 1 dice so say if kato did do that bringing him to zero dice, if he had no ki to buy any dice. He would still roll 1 dice anyways but his opponant would also gsin a dice so he is still that the same odds. To clarify say if someone was are -2 in melee they eould still roll A dice but the enemy would gain 2 dice :) best way to pull off ivory prison is to outnumber and exhuast the enemy you wanna do it against reducing thier dice as much as possible so when you do it and buy dice you have more dice then your enemy does :)

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First of all, consider re-reading the "toughness" rules, as it mitigates poison damage and thus your kairai would have never been wounded by it.

- Melee modifiers not related to "Strenght (x)" or "Armor (x) affect Mele Skill, which are, indeed, the number of dice rolled. So a MS3 model, if exhausted and frightened, would only roll 1 dice.

- A model that goes to prone OR is moved away from Btb CAN'T strike back because the mele exchange is considered ended.

- Souless models ALWAYS suceed on opposed ki test and fear tests, no matter who's the active player. Be wary, they still have to check Target (x) Ki tests which are NOT fear tests.

- I can't recall the exact wording of Keii scenario, I'll let go that answer.

- Ivory Mask: yes. You need to boost your melee skill OR debuff you opponents MS under 1, so Kato will be granted extra dice. If you plan it corectly, combinig exhausted, frightened, surprise and overwhlemed debuffs will make an easy Ivory Mask attack.

 

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Thank you so much for the answers. This clarifies a lot. It was to be expected of course that the first game would be full of mistakes. I'll have a new game in a week or two. Untill then, back to painting ;-).

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JamesHasker09 wrote:

...5) thats one way of doing it yes! But no matter whst in melee exchanges you MUST always roll least 1 dice so say if kato did do that bringing him to zero dice, if he had no ki to buy any dice. He would still roll 1 dice anyways but his opponant would also gsin a dice so he is still that the same odds. To clarify say if someone was are -2 in melee they eould still roll A dice but the enemy would gain 2 dice :) best way to pull off ivory prison is to outnumber and exhuast the enemy you wanna do it against reducing thier dice as much as possible so when you do it and buy dice you have more dice then your enemy does :)

I belive this is false. If you don't have enough dice to do a Special Attack or Defense then you simply just can't use it. It's because declaring what Sp Attack or Defense you use happens after the dice have been already allocated by both players. So you can't say" I only roll 1 Dice but you get X amount" because the timing is just not right for that at all.

Another little thing that both you guys missed is Poison. Even if Sakura would be able to poison a Kairai (which she cannot but that was already discussed), the Poison(1) tokens would do nothing to the Kairai because of their Toughness(1). Basically you need to get enough Poison(1) on them to let it upgrade to Poison(2), and even then those would only damage them for 1 Wound because of the Toughness.

Also just a little tip at the end. If you suspect that Ikiryo will be Melee'd just leave enough Ki on her to reflect the damage with her Ki feat. It will save your 3 Wounds(which is a lot) and will also put the hurt on your enemy. Just be aware that she can't use that if she is Surprised(as no models can use Ki related stuff when Surprised).

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Ruro wrote:

JamesHasker09 wrote:

...5) thats one way of doing it yes! But no matter whst in melee exchanges you MUST always roll least 1 dice so say if kato did do that bringing him to zero dice, if he had no ki to buy any dice. He would still roll 1 dice anyways but his opponant would also gsin a dice so he is still that the same odds. To clarify say if someone was are -2 in melee they eould still roll A dice but the enemy would gain 2 dice :) best way to pull off ivory prison is to outnumber and exhuast the enemy you wanna do it against reducing thier dice as much as possible so when you do it and buy dice you have more dice then your enemy does :)

I belive this is false. If you don't have enough dice to do a Special Attack or Defense then you simply just can't use it. It's because declaring what Sp Attack or Defense you use happens after the dice have been already allocated by both players. So you can't say" I only roll 1 Dice but you get X amount" because the timing is just not right for that at all.

 

I agree with this as the latest errata has added 

All Special Attacks and Defences have an X cost after the name text, this is the number of dice to remove from the model’s Melee dice pool (See Melee Exchanges) if it chooses to use a Special Attack or Defence. A model’s dice pool cannot be reduced to 0 through to use of a Special Attack or Defence, and if this would happen the player cannot declare that Special Attack or Defence.
 
So the only way kato can use his Ivory prison Attack is by boosting his dice pool

If it was'nt for bad luck I'd have no luck at all

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or by reducing the opposing dice pool to 0 or less, say by outnumbering them with kairai, exhausting them then proning them with nezumi:)

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Hey,

Greeny you are a genius.

I love that idea and look forwards to doing it in my next game.

 

Have a good one

 

 

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Better outnumbering, exhausting, and then a surprise attack!

Remember that you can rotate around your enemy base in Mele exhanges if you started in BtB...

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Hey,

I am a little slow on the up-take, what does this mean?

Atrus wrote:

Remember that you can rotate around your enemy base in Mele exhanges if you started in BtB...

I thought you had to stay in the ZOC?

Have a good one

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"Models in BtB with Enemy models have no ZoC."

3rd page of the rules. ;)

This can also become in handy when you are hunting supportmodels without having evasive, leap or fly.

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Hey,

Well, well, well. smiley Thank you very much for that! It has really opened up the game a lot!

Have a good one.

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