Ideal loud out for Dog pack

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kristophkoniczek
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Ideal loud out for Dog pack

Just getting some Savage wave and looking at the potential synergy for a beast pack with the Oni leader.

Is there a theme list that plays to this- it seems to have a good deal of synergy as is, but could be fragile.

Looking at playing 50 rice with some supporting characters (Goro? Boba?)

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If you plan to play some beast list you'd best avoid the small Kaihei.

To get the best of Yusha you'll want to grab a Bat, the Kaihei Alpha (don't forget the errata). You should then pick Goro and/or The Nian (Better play the Great Eye from the card pack). You can then fill the rest of your warband with Bat swarm or slave (maybe the bodyguard if you can spare a point). I advise you to get some Unearthly rage too.

This way you'll get some got target to Rise and to Inspire. You can also throw people with Yusha if you feel Goro can't kill them !

Have Fun !

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Animals and Yokai are acceptable in the Alphas list, unfortunately onisho are not alpha enough apparently. Although I wouldn't say that to Goro's face.

The bat is excluded from the Alphas theme, thankfully, and I would recommend taking at least 2 Oni to gain the benefits of the theme's 1rc reduction per oni and the benefit when a model dies (not amazing) but terror on alternating on I'd would be hard for some opponents to deal with.

The alternative Nian model (the great eye) is a good replacement for Goro, no powerful attack 0 but still brutal 1 and can cause cowardly to reduce brave models to tears when a terror causing Rashka slams them.

The kaihei alpha got a huge buff with the errata adding dodge and reducing the cost by 2r. Added to this, despite not being seriously powerful combatants on their own the group activation on the kaihei cards, in the hands of a creative player, could cause opponents all manner of difficult choices. You certainly wouldn't want to find a few models cut off from the main war band as they would find themselves exhausted, outnumbered and possibly prone and immobilised.
Yusha's command 3/kaihai could also be used to activate the alpha and both profile cards of the kaihai twice in a turn. It would burn most of your activations but if you need to achieve something or kill something quickly it would be a big advantage.

Any way that's just my thoughts. I've considered playing something similar but I think the oni offer a little something more for the costs and group activation can result in opponents getting activation control so its best to use the kaihai to exhaust opponent's models where possible.

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There is also quite a lot of info on the kaihai if you search yusha and kaihai or go to here:
https://gctstudios.com/forum/ret-ereshkigal-148

I'd be tempted to take for 50r:
Alphas theme
Rashka 13rc (14r effective for scenario)
Yusha 10rc (11r effective for scenario)
Kaihai Alpha 7rc
Kaihai 1 A&B 10rc
Kaihai 2 A&B 10rc

It doesn't leave any space for enhancements but if you get a slam attack off against something that becomes prone the dogs will tear it to pieces.

I'm not sure Yusha is necessarily the best option at 11/10 rice but command would allow both kaihai profiles to have a single model activate at the same time, which would be strong for scenario play or creating difficult choices for an opponent rather than being forced to group activate the profile which may be handy for doing multiple prayers before an opponent can respond.

Now I want to try it out... I really need to stay off these forums ;)

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Another option is to be silly and not take the alpha theme.

You can take Yusha

With some kaihai (alpha)

Then maybe in some of the others who can prone people: cave bat (rider), old one eye/nian rider

Then end with something like tra peng (stun is great) if you took more bakemono 

Or the bat swarm (more stylish) or 2 slaves to have some way to keep the opponent from outactivating you to badly since will have relatively few melee skill for the number of models you have otherwise.

 

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