Serpent´s Coil

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Serpent´s Coil

Hi everyone!

I´m quite new to Bushido and actually also to the hobby. It also seams there are no Bushido activities around my location (Germany Regensburg), so I decided to get two of the new starter sets (Ito and Cult) to be able to play and maybe get a few people into the game.

When I read some of the cards or rules there still occur a few questions. The first one of them I will post here:
The Serpent´s Coil Theme says “During the End Phase, if a model takes damage due to a Poison Token, a model with Immune (Poison) in this Warband gains 1 Ki.”

I have read it first, that if any number of models (friendly or enemy) got damage this way, one of your models with immunity gets a Ki.

But it could also mean, that it triggers on every model that gained damage this way separately, or it could even mean, that for every Poison Token which inflicts damage you gain 1 Ki. So, if more than 1 Poison Tokens inflict multiple damage on one model the same turn, you will get the same number of Ki.

Maybe its since I’m not a native speaker… Hope someone can clarify it for me.

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Your second reading is correct. You could gain multiple Ki on multiple models.

norskface
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Thank you! Just to be sure, is that your reading, or was that somewhen clarified…? Is the gaining Ki Thing dependant on the Models suffered from Poison, or the number of Tokens inflicted Damage? It seams quite strong!

If there is anyone near Regensburg, please contact me ;)

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My reading. Per model, though. It doesn't say "Each time a model takes damage...".

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Just one model gets one Ki.  Doesn't matter how much poison is out there.  You generally don't need more than that extra little bit of Ki for your shisai/shugenja to function.

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Hmmm, I´m still not sure which is the intended way to play it and it seems that you guys are playing it differently as well.
Is there anyone from the developer Team watching this from time to time? Probably he could give me a hint on RAI.

If there is anyone near Regensburg, please contact me ;)

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Ret-A_Palmer is on the rules design team so his interpretation would be official

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Ok, thank´s a lot!
Is there a way to spot this on other members? Like the guy who has GCT in his Name?

1Ki per Turn didn´t seem to be that strong compared to the other Themes, but the other two options would get quite hefty… especially for no restrictions!

If there is anyone near Regensburg, please contact me ;)

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This is how I would rank rules decisions:

  1. GCT Master Enos
  2. Ret-A_Palmer
  3. All other retainers / your tournament organiser

I disagree with the reading here, but I am outranked. I would suggest the wording be amended to:

“During the End Phase, if any models take damage due to a Poison Token, a model with Immune (Poison) in this Warband gains 1 Ki.”

The benefits in this theme are weak, because there are no restrictions on recruitment.

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Does this also work for when you accidentally on purpose poison your own models due to pulse effects or should it be enemy only?

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